You blokes should get some facts straight!!!!
The confusion form 1987 and beyond has been caused by the SANFL, and the then Port rivals. They insisted that the Port Adelaide Football club MUST keep a Magpies team in the SANFL. In order for the Port Adelaide Football club to move as a club, tradition and all to the AFL, they created the Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club (to play in the SANFL as the Port Magpies) in 1997. This was done by the SANFL to ensure that the SANFL kept its biggest Rival for gate attendances and media coverage. Unfortunately this created a division within the Port Adelaide Family, and hence the crowds have been down. Instead of us being as one we were divided between the media crap and what the SANFL wanted. Hopefully for the SANFL the magpies continue and combine with the PAFC, and for the PAFC they gain some revenue streams from the Prince of Wales Hotel (MUST BE REFURBISHED!!)

Steven

The SANFL should have the lecense of both the crows and power taken off them by the AFL. They should then be put on the open market, revenue would go to wiping out all previous debt for both clubs and leave a large amount to be divided by all SANFL Clubs. That way all would win

If the merger is indeed realistic, then maybe it should go ahead, but this is by no means clear. As for the belief that the decision should be taken out of the SANFL clubs hands according to Michelango Rucci, what rubbish. In principle it is a decision about an SANFL team in a SANFL competition with an AFL Club thinking it might gain a financial advantage by inheriting a debt. And that AFL club is a drain on the SANFL.
A vote against a merger is not a vote to kill the Magpies, lets be clear. It just makes things harder. But they are not the only SANFL club that have been in this situaiton. As for blaming the other clubs for a flawed model, the Port Adelaide clubs (Power and Magpies) need to take responsibility for wanting an AFL presence in the first place.

XIOTIS said: You blokes should get some facts straight!!!!
The confusion form 1987 and beyond has been caused by the SANFL, and the then Port rivals. They insisted that the Port Adelaide Football club MUST keep a Magpies team in the SANFL. In order for the Port Adelaide Football club to move as a club, tradition and all to the AFL, they created the Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club (to play in the SANFL as the Port Magpies) in 1997. This was done by the SANFL to ensure that the SANFL kept its biggest Rival for gate attendances and media coverage. Unfortunately this created a division within the Port Adelaide Family, and hence the crowds have been down. Instead of us being as one we were divided between the media crap and what the SANFL wanted. Hopefully for the SANFL the magpies continue and combine with the PAFC, and for the PAFC they gain some revenue streams from the Prince of Wales Hotel (MUST BE REFURBISHED!!)
Steven

hey how come there is two Hendo's?

sorry off topic I know... but that is weird

Hendo said: hey how come there is two Hendo's?
sorry off topic I know... but that is weird

Just saw Newsflash and it is not looking good for the maggies.

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ,, is the grumblebums site????

Odds stacked against Port, Power after SANFL club vote Michelangelo Rucci
From: The Advertiser February 09, 2010 8:18PM

THE Port Adelaide Magpies' place in the SANFL will not be saved by a merger with the AFL-based Port Adelaide Football Club.

The Magpies' eight SANFL rivals last night voted 8-0 against the salvation package saying the joint Port Adelaide business plan was too risky. The SANFL league directors have left the SA Football Commission to this morning ratify their verdict.

This condemns the Magpies to a farewell season in the SANFL - the 140th with a Port Adelaide team - and shut down at year's end...


www.adelaidenow.com.au/

rip port adelaide magpies no good for footy in sa

hotmail said: rip port adelaide magpies no good for footy in sa

What's going to happen to this blog if Pt Adelaide go.. !!!

7:30am is the dealind not long to go now looks like Port Magpies are doomed.

We seen it coming with other teams beit AFL or SANFL with all this merging.

The game is no longer about the love of the sport it's money money money don't have the money to bad you can't play.

It's really great fro our young and aspiring talent nationally to see the game go into such demise.

Could SANFL etc make life cheaper hell no they got bills to pay is they're excuse yeh like useless board members that change they're minds on things like the direction of the wind.

Ohwell i'm glad i got to do my insignificant bit back in the day as a mini league player.

Interestingly enough all that time ago it was a similar story our schools team would have had to forfeit the season because of lack of players.

It was amazing even people like me who weren't sports oriented and probably not the best of players but we had heart and we weren't going to see Alberton united vanish just like that.

We got drilled most of the time but the team spirit was there we didn't care if we lost we just wanted to play it kept us out of mischief a lot of the matches we would actually walk the journey lol no wonder we were knackered before the game started :-)

Them were simpler days no doubt as even the kids now have the same sagas as they're adult counterparts.

It's a sad state of affairs nationally it's $ now.

The SANFL was a strong exciting competition BEFORE Port Adelaide decided to upset the applecart and force its hand to hurriedly enter The Crows into a corporate AFL which doesn't have football or true blue football supporters as its number one priority.

Grass roots footy as we knew it ended there and then, in favour of a 'plastic' bastardised competition. It's Port's fault they're in the position they're in today and they've fallen on their own sword. Justice has prevailed I'd say.

I heard Port Magpies were folding this morning and I havent been able to stop laughing.I think its great .They have been so cocky for years and The Power must take some responsibliity for this.But then again the Power are getting hand outs so it wont be long before they fold too.Go The Mighty Bays and The Mighty Crows.

The further this issue went the more apparent it became to me that the Port Magpies don't want to be in the SANFL anymore... They want to complete their transition into the AFL...

Does the Port board really believe that keeping a pub is more important than losing their 120 year old club???
It seems to me that the Port board is more interested in completing their move to the AFL...

Why would they think that they would be any different from other SANFL clubs...
When my Woodville Peckers disappeared where were Port, did they help bail them out?
How about Centrals, North, South and Norwood, how much help did Port give them?
With this history why do Port think that they should have more rights than these other clubs?

Finally I'd like to say that if Port folded there is no one to blame but their management, sell the pub and save the club....

selling the prince of wales hotel will not save the club? it will just give the magpies a good farewell from the competition, and to the other 8 clubs that voted against the merger, i hope there turn comes as well and the same thing happens to them,its a disgrace to the sanfl not to have the magpies in,the best club ever with the most supporters and members and where will those members and supporters go, nowhere i for one will never step foot to a local game again and neither will thousands of others.

I've just had a look around trying to get membership numbers of the different SANFL clubs. The only one I can find is Port Magpies which had a total of 1843 members as of yesterday. Is this a good number? How does it compare with others? I don't know the answer to these questions, but it seems to me that 1843 members wouldn't generate enough income to sustain any club................................or am I wrong here???

I really am not a footy supporter @ all I'd rather 'waste time cooking' or watch paint drying. But I'm a proud South Aussie, & sorry this turn of events will be put in the annals of history.

RIP Magpies I guess the 'murder' of Crows has won the day. (I know they are 2 different leagues - it was said tongue in cheek)!

well I am not a port Magpies supporter but I am sad to see them go and I feel for all you passoned supporters this is a sad time for SA thats for sure

To everyone who is a maggies supporter, to the players, the volunteers and all associated with the club, don't give up. I truly hope there is a way out. I am a Norwood & Centrals supporter but we need the Maggies & I will even join the club if it will help. (Never thought I would hear myself say that) Come on footy lovers help out SA footy.

Always the same Port Adelaide Football Club and their supporters always want it their own way. Work your way out of the financial problems the same way South Adelaide, North Adelaide, Sturt, Norwood, Centrals, West Adelaide and Glenelg had to – there was no AFL club to bail them out, no easy street for them. Port Adelaide wants what may well work out to be quite financially viable but at what cost and detriment to the other SANFL Clubs. Let all those clever business men come up with an alternative plan like the other clubs have had to. Otherwise do what West Torrens and Woodville had to do – amalgamate (if anyone would take you!)
By the way I am sure Port Adelaide Magpies will go on - there is no way they will just fold- they never have and they never will! This merge was just the preferred option for them.

go eagles go

HOTMAIL; ???? you are everywhere,,,grrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Selling the Prince of Wales i think was so they could could at least finish this year?

But as for the clubs debts pfffffft no hope
we're talking millions lots of them.

Even with AS onboard it still didn't stem the tide.

As for Port forcing the SANFL's hand on starting the Crows that's the same old BS line used for years pity it has no validity or bearing on the situation.

Fact is the other clubs didn't rackup anywhere near as much debt and or were able to be more profitable due to various reasons.

Yes Power jumped the gun with the application for the AFL license for which they paid dearly.

As for bailing out Peckers why?

Port and others were struggling back then
also or have you forgotten 95 was it?

Things turned out ok becoming the Eagles.

Port doesn't have another team to merge with
thats why Power was the only option and even that was no good due to the debt level incurred.

I actually chatted with some of the press and some people who did the rough figures.

As Leon stated the flowon effect from this will be noticeable.

I heard of figures like 600k + just from takings and other proceeds now lost.

Conclusion: wouldn't make a scrap of difference as they'd be lucky to cover the interest.

But i think round ballpark figure was around 6 Mil or something shocking and i think that included forecasted debt also ?

suebee said: Always the same Port Adelaide Football Club and their supporters always want it their own way. Work your way out of the financial problems the same way South Adelaide, North Adelaide, Sturt, Norwood, Centrals, West Adelaide and Glenelg had to – there was no AFL club to bail them out, no easy street for them. Port Adelaide wants what may well work out to be quite financially viable but at what cost and detriment to the other SANFL Clubs. Let all those clever business men come up with an alternative plan like the other clubs have had to. Otherwise do what West Torrens and Woodville had to do – amalgamate...

lets look at this with no emotion and bias

1. If the port Adelaide merger went ahead and power had a team in the sanfl. This would mean port adelaide in the sanfl Will become very strong as they would have people lining up to play for them to be linked to the afl team. they will pick the cream of the crop. - other sanfl teams lose as the comp will become very 1 sided

2. If port magies fold and power is the only team - big win for power as it has all the members. big loss for sanfl - its soul will be gone as anti port rivalry is strong and is keeping it together

So sanfl is the big loser with both scenarios - so the only option is to bail them out and leave as is and this( I am sure ) will happen.

the question to answer is who is accountable in port magpies for losing so much money when they have the most membership and largest crowds.

The sanfl needs port more than port needs it . if port power is serious they should be aggressive and the magpies should threaten to cease football operations. fans would have no option but to embrace the power as their team is now in a superior comp and this would bring the sanfl to its knees. The best of 2 evils will be option 1 and the power may get exactly what it wants.

Oh and by the way - of course the cost cutting from merging 2 loss making clubs will change the balance sheet. - the plan will work it is just an excuse as the clubs are worried about thie survival

the odds against the magpies say that they are dead and buried? but i think there will still be a port adelaide team in the local comp for many years to come,this saga is probarbly just what they needed to get people to stand up and take notice, ever since the no merger vote the fans and supporters of other clubs have been flocking to alberton to hand over their hard earned cash,as for myself i have redrawn a $1000 dollars from my house mortgage and donated it to port adelaide magpies,so come on all you so called loyal supporters dig deep and keep the magpies afloat.

part 2,even iff the magpies do fold at least i know as a loyal fan that i did my bit to try and help them out, and just for the record there is another team already about to fold so all you magpie knockers out there,some of you will be eating your own words real soon?

Where are all the Port fans?
How can there only be 1848 members of this once great football club, Port used to have more supporters than any other club, where have they gone?
When I grew up in Adelaide in the 80's I would say that at least 2/3rds of all people were Port Fans...
Possibly the statement that the pub is their major asset explains where they have gone, I allways thought the fans were the most important asset of any footy club...
Has the board been sacked, how can they possibly allow themselves to get 6 mil in debt and how can they expect anyone to bail them out if the mis-management is going to continue?
Also the Power relies on handouts to survive, so how can a club who can't make a profit save another club?
Possibly the blocking of the merger has saved 2 clubs...
But in saying this, it would be very disappointing if Port folded, come on Port supporters and power supporters, if you have ever said Port is better than the Crows because Port has history, get into the club and buy a membership...
I know there are a lot more than 1848 of these people...