Proposed Housing area??? News to me but ,
good call ..if im wrong ..well im wrong

@Rob52
I wouldn't ride/drive to MB via the tollgate, but other than towns in the hills - like Mt Barker etc - the tollgate was the only place in Adelaide close to the CBD where MB could be reached in 45 minutes - and even that is pushing it.
From my place to MB via chain of ponds is approx 85 - 90 kms.
One thing I will agree with though, is your comment about getting things done, and (in general terms) the state of your cars. In my younger days I spent quite some living and working in several country centres. I even have fond memories of being a member of the Rural Youth movement - they were good times.

Hi Carmel, no I missed speedway the other night, being on a tight budget these days precludes it but I enjoy the sound as the speed-way is just the other side of the river & I'm only 622metres from the river on my side of the river. I think speedway & motor-sport in general is a good family oriented sport as the whole family can participate at some level even if you only do it as a spectator. Going to motor-sport as a family gave my kids a healthy respect for speed & an appreciation of a well sorted out motor car (my daughter had a 200B that was as ugly as sin but did it go! ! & stop too)

Carmel, Carmel you gonna have em running scared again.

We had Rowley Park yrs ago (sorry if I've spelt it incorrectly - never attended the place), believe it was round the Brompton area which is now full of town houses or in p.c. speak 'medium density housing'.

I don't like hoon drivers & if we did have somewhere 'legal' for them to go & do their deeds most foul, they wouldn't want to pay to use the facilities. There are so many suburban roads around Adelaide with burn-out marks I reckon the tyre manufacturer's would be having a field day. Or the State Govt. coffers getting richer with all the fines for bald tyres.

Hi Jaydee, I came to the city on Friday ,left the high school corner at 3:59, put the car on cruise at the legal limit arrived toll gate4:00 exactly, dropped my son off to his mothers place the arrived at North Park by 4:25. I can leave my place & 55 minutes later pull up in Hindmarsh square, I'm glad you enjoyed rural youth, something Sir Thomas Playford encouraged, nowadays if it doesn't happen in the city the government couldn't give a rat's rectum about it

Jaydee said:
@Rob52
I wouldn't ride/drive to MB via the tollgate, but other than towns in the hills - like Mt Barker etc - the tollgate was the only place in Adelaide close to the CBD where MB could be reached in 45 minutes - and even that is pushing it.
From my place to MB via chain of ponds is approx 85 - 90 kms.
One thing I will agree with though, is your comment about getting things done, and (in general terms) the state of your cars. In my younger days I spent quite some living and working in several country centres. I even have fond memories of being a member of the Rural Youth movement - they were good times.

This nit picking is sad.

It is splitting the motor race fan which is not good for what we all want, a first class racing/drag facility.

The way I see it is that the proposed new facility at Tailem Bend is the only way to go because it has the backing of both the Sporting Car Club of SA and the SA Bike Association. And there is infrastructure there now to build on.

Instead of plugging for something that a person wants to set up as a business is not what we need , especially if suburban creep keeps growing, as it will.

today we did the dance demo for the liberal party whom are in favour for the much needed motorcomplex.thats a great idea that will boost the tourist side for the port adelaide.

Micheal Atkinson rides a bike, he obviously ha NO concept of normal car loving Australians. I was at Glenelg today & saw a a huge crowd of Jap car enthusiasts ranging in age from teens to older men and women who had spent buckets on their cars, they were not hoons but appreciate that when driven properly on a track can be FUN!

ibd77 said:
I missed the discussion with Micheal Atkinsion on 5aa but from what I can gather, Micheal has rejected the proposal on the assumption that it will incourage hoon driving and it will cost the government money in developing it.
From what I am hearing the government doesn't have to fund any of it other than releasing land either for sale or lease.
As far as hoon driving on public roads is concerned, you are always going to get no matter what you do and in fact the more you try to stop it by over policing the worse it will get as most young people will rebel against it.
However if there is release for young people to drive their cars on a closed race track where safety factors are in place. It is a far better idea than people driving like idiots on the streets or on country roads to get their fix.
I think Micheal tends to think he is more of a mother to the people rather than an politician. His stance on certain things such as video gaming classifications just indicates that he is out of date with the times.
ibd77
AustralianAutosportCommunity.com

goddesstouch said:
today we did the dance demo for the liberal party whom are in favour for the much needed motorcomplex.thats a great idea that will boost the tourist side for the port adelaide.

We keep hearing the argument that if there was a motorplex drivers would have some where get their need for speed out of their systems then they wouldn't behave like hoons on the roads?

Today we hear that the formula one driver Lewis Hamilton has been pulled over and charged with hoon driving on a public road.

I think the argument falls flat!

Paralytic said: We keep hearing the argument that if there was a motorplex drivers would have some where get their need for speed out of their systems then they wouldn't behave like hoons on the roads?
Today we hear that the formula one driver Lewis Hamilton has been pulled over and charged with hoon driving on a public road.
I think the argument falls flat!

I have been involved with all facets of motor sports since 1960 with 32 years of that as a member of the St John Ambulance Brigade - Adelaide (Motor Cycle) Division and the SA Ambulance Service in Adelaide and at Eudunda.

Firstly a few corrections and to set the records straight.

At Virginia there is International Raceway which is currently owned by Bob Jane and to my knowledge is rarely used, the last main category being drags.

It was used for all types of motor sports basically up until the Grand Prix came to Adelaide (1985) & when the GP went to Melbourne the V8 Supercars use the track for the Clipsal 500.

Then there is Speedway City, which was built by the Racing Drivers Association which took over from Rowley Park in 1979. This is still used today, plus they have burnout competitions in the off speedway season.

Further to that, there is a racing circuit at Mallala which is owned by Clem Smith and apart from speedway most of the circuit racing in SA is done there.

There is a hillclimb track just south of Angaston at Collingrove and that is used for hillclimbs and burnout competitions.

At Gillman there is a motor cycle speedway track which is currently used.

At Harrogate, Motorcycling SA owns land and it is used for motor cross and short circuit speedway.

There are numerous Gokart tracks in the outer metro are with one of them being Bolivar.

WineStar said:

Yet another plate of crap served up by you para. How often does this happen you goose! Hoons are out there daily, this was a one off mistake by a champion and sensible driver.

Continued from above:

As you can see, there is venues "all over the place" and if a private consortium wishes to develop a complex that caters for ALL, the government should allow it, provided that it does not interfere with the environment too much.

At Kwinana in WA, they have a Motorsport Complex and works very well.

Another problem that has evolved at Speedway Park and Murray Bridge Speedway is the noise curfew, where they have to be finished by a certain time.

The speedway was there first and then civilisation moves in and then finally rules...."this is not on".

Re hoon drivers, well that is another subject and too long to discuss here.

Paralytic said:

WineStar said:
Yet another plate of crap served up by you para. How often does this happen you goose! Hoons are out there daily, this was a one off mistake by a champion and sensible driver.

What a typically stupid and irresponsible answer!
That same sensible driver has a history of similar offences.
Shouldn't a sensible driver be setting an example to the idiots?
It only takes a one off mistake to kill or maim you, your wife, daughter, son....etc.

in reply to amen423

speedway city do run burnout comps during summer months but quite a few times they have been cancelled because they couldnt be bothered or some other weak excuse, they average over 100 cars per meeting.

i am also quite close to the collingrove saga as my family is involved, the pad there is unusable as it was just a couple concrete pads just slapped on the ground and have shifted too badly to safely run on, there is currently talks with SASCC to whether they are going to fund for a new one but it all comes down to money.

murray bridge is a well run event and they get good turnouts when they have them.

And the main event at AIR is GAZZANATS in which i have attended every year since it started. the drag strip is too short for the times and speeds that the top doorslammers and funny cars are running these days, and also every time that the track is repaired they botch it. the drifters now refuse to run there as the lip coming on from the burnout pad to the drag strip is quite big and at the speeds they come onto the strip it would be way too dangerous.

why havent SA police got in on DRAG TAG??? the victorian police have and it seems to be working quite well.

Why don't you all back Tailem Bend it isn't near a built up area so nobody will complain about the noise.

Rob52 said:
Why don't you all back Tailem Bend it isn't near a built up area so nobody will complain about the noise.

face it guys...there is not much we can do about the hoon's out there except teach them the importance of responsible driving from an early statge in life. The answer provided by this forum to create a "Hoon Haven" is wrong and in many other counties where this happen's it doen not do a thing. The real answer is providing a smart solution withan incentive attached. Going back to basics and thinking about what makes these hot head think like..what sparks them into driving the way they do..peer pressure and all that stuff...some people really need to get together to crunch this issue seriously. It's a big problem in every town, state, country.

Wow! How interesting it is reading all the replies on this subject. There will always be some hoon element no matter what facilities you have. South Australia needs proper motorsport facilities. I regularly travel to Mildura to compete in khanacross and am amazed at all the motorsport facilities they have for a rural city. The track I race at is next to a motorcross track that anyone can go to and ride legaly. The drag strip next door recently hosted the topdoor slammers and the road was sealed and power lines upgraded especially for it. The local council really gets behind it. They also have speedway, speed boats gokart and motorbike tracks. Tailem bend has a decent complex recently opened but the hire cost is way over the top for small car clubs. I also race at the old horse race track in Tailem which is much cheaper at $250 for the day compared to $660 the other complex wants. If the state government was behind these sporting complexes the average Joe could enjoy LEGAL drags, drift, racing etc without mortgaging the house.

I invite you all to come out to the next khanacross to be held on the 9th May at Tailem bend. (old horse race track. Racecourse road off Karoonda Rd near phone towers.) Racing starts at 10 am. Free to spectate. Come and see what your average Joe gets up to in one of the cheapest forms of motorsport available. I can't speak for everyone but I myself for the last 20 years have been able to "vent" on the track and drive with more confidence and care on the road due to the experience gained on the track.

Mate traffic is traveling in the same direction with a road divider all the way, surely even townies aren't that bad at driving? ?

Paralytic said:

Rob52 said:
Why don't you all back Tailem Bend it isn't near a built up area so nobody will complain about the noise.

That's true Rob but could you imagine the amount of carnage there would be on the road between Adelaide and Tailem Bend has the idiots who have been those get togethers carry on with their need for speed. Too many innocent motorists and truckies would be be putting their lives at risk as they share the road with morons every time there was a function there.

Sounds great, just like when we were kids we had car days out at the swamps near the Murray bridge meat works. Also used to drive the Bow Hill Rd when it was gravel, 170km on gravel was way twitchy.

2lt510 said:
I invite you all to come out to the next khanacross to be held on the 9th May at Tailem bend. (old horse race track. Racecourse road off Karoonda Rd near phone towers.) Racing starts at 10 am. Free to spectate. Come and see what your average Joe gets up to in one of the cheapest forms of motorsport available. I can't speak for everyone but I myself for the last 20 years have been able to "vent" on the track and drive with more confidence and care on the road due to the experience gained on the track.

There are also 2 other complexes where people can go which are based on car rallying.

They are:

Lanac Park near Mt Compass which is owned by the Sporting Car Club of SA - www.sdcc.asn.au

Walky Park, east of Truro which is owned by the Walkerville All Cars Club - www.wacc.asn.au

The biggest problem with having this type of facility is that you have to pay to join to be a member & compete an then have to run under strict rules, so the average young person would not be able to afford it.

If the government was serious about the road toll and hoon drivers, they should provide a Motorsport Complex FREE OF CHARGE and then they could conduct driving courses for ALL NEW DRIVERS and educate them the way that they should be.

At least by doing this they have them under their control and teach them the way that they want to, before they know no better.

Correct. You do have to join a car club and cams which will cost between $100 and $160 depending on your age and race license you buy. Then for a days racing like this weekend will be another $45. Rules are not too bad but they are there to make it safer for everyone to weed out idiots and unsafe cars. as I said in my last post. Come out, have a look and find out what you need to participate.